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Nick Khachatryan:
My goal is all about value proposition. It is ultimately people’s future.

Tyrone Shum:
This is Property Investory where we talk to successful property investors, find out more about their stories, mindset and strategy.

I’m Tyrone Shum and in this episode we have the pleasure of talking to Nick Khachatryan. Nick’s passion for property investment evolved when he was forced to learn the tricks of the trade himself. With all the knowledge he attained, he had the brilliant idea to offer his services to others.

Khachatryan’s works to help his clients reach their property investment goals.

Nick Khachatryan:
I’m from Australian Exclusive Realestate in Melbourne Victoria. Look I have been in real estate industry for the only the past three to four years and we have been working with overseas as well as local investors, homeowners, people generally looking to get into property since we started in helping them to achieve either home ownership goals or investment goals.

Tyrone Shum:
A day in the life of Nick Khachatryan involves helping clients reach their investment property goals whilst simultaneously using his experience to determine what classifies as a profitable investment opportunity or not.

Nick Khachatryan:
On most days we I suppose look at clients needs and what they want to achieve. If we do work with investors either group of investors or individuals who are looking to expand into the investment property investment market or simply looking to expand their existing portfolios. We look at opportunities e look at some of the things that is relevant to their goals and what they’re willing to achieve in the long run. Obviously properties are long term gain instead of short term gain. Therefore we need to have some sort of strategy in order to achieve those goals. Now most of the time were sort of looking through deals, looking for opportunities, assessing existing opportunities, and trying to collaborate with clients together.

If there’s a group investment opportunity, if it’s more of a personal home ownership or more of an investment goal like your average mum and dad we will be looking into their long term strategies to see how we can help them to achieve their investment goals. So essentially it’s all about looking for opportunities, looking for strategies and organising them and putting together discussing, groups or other agents or group of people that normally have vested interest in the property sector. So that’s generally what we do to help our clients on day to day basis.

Tyrone Shum:
Excellent. So I guess you mentioned to me that you’ve done a little bit of private equity as well and obviously invest in property. Why did you choose property over other investment vehicles. Because obviously the shares and your your money and business as well. Why did you choose property.

Nick Khachatryan:
Looking at the historic figures I’m very much factual. I don’t, gambling is not my thing. I don’t even you know allocate a small portion of my income even for entertainment purposes on gambling so I’m very much numbers focused. Every investment decision especially when it comes to other people’s money it has to be justified. So gambling is really not an option. When I looked at the historical figures of Australia from starting from the 1900s all the way to date you could see that there’s you know there’s a fluctuation in the land value as well as the property value but ultimately that graph has grown exponentially.

Tyrone Shum:
Settling into the Australian lifestyle, Khachatryan had to figure out which career path would allow him to make his dream of running his own company a reality.

Nick Khachatryan:
I was actually born overseas in a country called Armenia. This is not very many people know about it. It’s sort of surrounded by Greece, Italy, Russia Turkey. Turkey and Armenia are back to back. So that’s the region that I’ve come from. We moved back to Australia and back in 2001 and since then I have obviously been through the Australian education system, the culture and eventually I realised obviously the business is the way to go instead of working for another company and then my background started to expand in business ownership.

Tyrone shum:
Nick was determined to dive head first into the property investment scene, however soon discovered it wasn’t all smooth sailing.

Nick Khachatryan:
At the time as I progressed to my second business venture being roughly around I think 26, 27 and at the time I was thinking about purchasing my own property which was quite tough and you know you go through these stages emotional and mental stages where you thinking you’ve been told so many people new information: you need deposits, you need to do this, you need an income. At the time being self employed as well wasn’t making things any easier and then it’s sort of those challenges that I went through is what encouraged me to learn more about the industry but at the same time it was a reason it was the real spark that gave me.

You can you can say the fire to go down that direction because it wasn’t just myself that was struggling or wasn’t sure what to do or wasn’t given the right information because look I did go to seminars and towards the seminars you’ve given form information collection and ultimately you get a phone call trying to sell you an apartment or some sort of property but there was no real value proposition no one actually cared about what is the real thing for me. It wasn’t just about buying property everyone can buy a property or need an agent for that. You don’t need a property specialist in that you can just simply go make an inquiry and purchase a property. But is that the right property? Is it negatively geared or is it positively geared? Is it is a tenant is it going to go up or is it going to go down in that area and if it does go down how do you protect yourself? There were so many questions that were developing from one point which was I need to property but the answer wasn’t that simple. So that’s what really gave me that reason to embark into the industry.

Tyrone Shum:
Nick realised that through all the guts and glory of successfully launching himself into the property investment scene, came the true responsibility of securing his financial future. His background in business gave him the confidence to branch off and pursue an independent business venture.

Nick Khachatryan:
Initially started off with several other ventures. We did work and I was at the time partnered with the business partner of mine and we had several you could say government contracts with energy efficiency schemes and we were helping as one of the many partners of the of the actual program in distribution of various energy saving devices throughout the Victorian homes. From then on I sort of separated from the partnership model went into my own venture which was in advertising/marketing field obviously having the marketing degree did come in handy with what I was planning to do.

And then with interaction with clients and things like that at the time I was making decisions for myself to own a property. But there was never enough information or I could not get a straight answer from most people. To me it all sounded like someone was trying to always sell me something to get a commission out of it. So I really wanted to educate myself about the industry and that sort of sparked the beginning of hey why not get into the property? I do enjoy property I do love it. It is a great investment opportunity and at the same time I can use the marketing sort of element of it in educating other people in how they can achieve their investment goals or real estate goals but only through the learning experience. My learning experience or the path that I had already gone through or going through that I can then say I’ve got a bit of experience I can pass it on right but then simply selling another property to another client and just focusing on commissions. So my goal is all about value proposition. It is ultimately people’s future. You’re talking about it’s not so much about the money it’s not so much about the world it’s about what will happen to the people in their 30s later down down the track in their lives when they’re in their 60s if they haven’t made the right financial goals. You don’t have parents you can rely on you you can’t rely on your friends so you ultimately rely on yourself in making those decisions and planning your future. So that’s where I found passion in real estate and decided to go down that path.

Tyrone Shum:
Coming up after the break we will delve into Khachatryan’s journey on how he became a property investor…

Nick Khachatryan:
Many people in my situation or with a low income could not own a property but I found the way.

Tyrone Shum:
The best moment in his property investment journey thus far…

Nick Khachatryan:
It gave us a long change of our perspective in the long term but also in that given time it gave us a very healthy profit margin.

Tyrone Shum:
What he has learnt along the way…

Nick Khachatryan:
From a financial perspective before we embark on any form of investment we do analysis and we apply what we call is a tsunami effect.

Tyrone Shum:
And that’s next. I’m Tyrone Shum and you’re listening to Property Investory.

Khachatryan’s primary background in business, enabled him to obtain a network of contacts within the field some of whom would eventually help him buy his first investment property down the line.

Nick Khachatryan:
The interesting thing was being a new business venture I was unable to come up with the right financials which if you are self-employed obviously you need to show two years of incomes for the business as well as for yourself. And obviously the business at the time being in the early stages of the year I was unable to present all those documentations. But what I found is that having my net worth that I have developed over the years working in different businesses as well as the previous business that I had I found that it is easy to own a property for investment purposes for example with the number of people who were able to help you with either their income contribution as well as the deposit contribution of owning the property essentially the first one that we own was good owned. It was more of an investment project that we had put together and I thought that if I’m able to for example put in twenty five thousand dollars in a deposit format into this property and so is everybody else and then we used various incomes of the partners I was working with at the time we were able to acquire the property and say five years down the track that 25 000 that I had put in would increase obviously with the capital gains you would increase my portion of the investment while it also increases a portion of the investment of my partners in this investment.

It was one way to put money into real estate and then increase or I suppose grow your wealth in a way it was a small amount to start off with. You gave me an opportunity to get into the property and that’s that’s how really I started because as I said many people in my situation or with a low income could not own a property but I found the way by simply you know relying on a trust factor here we were able to purchase a property that could be used to grow our lot and then sell and move on to the next project and then ultimately when you’ve done that several times your twenty five thousand has become turned into 50 or had turned into 75 or 200 thousan. Ultimately you find that you have more deposited better stability as well as knowledge to go on your journey or at least share your experiences with other people. And that’s the way we started so it was a real challenge as they say to crack into the industry.

Tyrone Shum:
Has there been any potential scenarios where things just didn’t work out but it will be a lesson that you would have learnt from that?

Nick Khachatryan:
Even in the best deals you’d definitely learn something. I can’t really point out anything, a situation where it was here was terrible but there are certain things that pop up.

I can give you several example in a case where we had purchased an existing property and it was a matter of being in a growing suburb and we thought that a renovation is an option on this property rather than completely demolish and rebuild. We obviously came across various renovation challenges when it comes to the contractors, the type of work, you don’t know what sort of work has been put in previously. So when you pull things apart you encounter things. This particular house was being was only 10 years old but obviously being part of a wall in builders production there were certain mistakes and certain things that were not done properly. So we had to go back in fixing them and come forward and finish off the project rather than say for example with a bathroom. There were several plumbing issues that were that were causing the water flow back into the shower that had to be fixed before we can actually move forward. And what that entailed is you know breaking a concrete, thick layer of concrete and then reaching to the plumbing and then extending to a higher point so that you won’t have that issue. You know it’s just simply one example or you have suppliers that don’t on bring things on time. The contractors don’t come in on time. You do need permits and things you did not expect. You would need to have permits for. Why are you doing all that?

You’re adding value because value proposition to the property but you’ve got to be very mindful of how is this going to affect your profit margin at the end when you’re selling out and things like that and anything to do with the off the plan sector that we were looking at buying some of the plan opportunities so essentially buying land and then constructing a property on top of that which gave us a lot of margins to work with profit margins. But the challenge was that developers would delay settlement timeframes. There were several issues with the land. Then there obviously the building and construction process can take several months more than what it was estimated originally which means that you can rent it out on time or you can sell that on time. There’s warranty related matters that you’ve got to be able to deal with. Certainly it is a lot of things to think about. But from a financial perspective before we embark on any form of investment we do analysis and we apply what we call is a tsunami effect and if was if there was a foreseen things that would would come and sort of destroy the property or you know our margins did not make sense any anymore because there was something unexpected that happened. How are we going to protect ourselves? From that perspective we were always doing okay. It was more of the actual you know the construction or the renovation process itself that would cause most headaches for us and our partners.

Tyrone Shum:
A more positive experience with unpredictability resulted in one of Khachatryan’s most successful property investments.

Nick Khachatryan:
Look I think the biggest success we had were, I think with one of the properties that we invested in for off the plan that gave us the maximum amount of return way above then what we actually expected. And it was just simply how we were able to leverage our relationships with our working partners and achieve that now as an example. When we purchase the land first of all we’re able to purchase it at a much lower price than what the market what it was valued for on a market. So it was a distressed situation where the previous owners were not able to come up with a settlement with the settlement terms of the banks as well as the developer. And we were able to acquire the land in a short amount of time. We purchased the property at a value two years two years back, So essentially when we purchase that we’ve purchased it at a much more depreciated price then what it was worth at the time. And in addition, having to leverage on our builders and the relationships we had were able to construct that particular home in a very cost effective manner and that obviously gave us a very big room for a profit margin that was quite healthy at the time. That was I suppose one of the aha moments where we were able to consider something in the future which was to look into distressed properties where they were established or deceased or was just simply part of a new state. So it gave us a long change of our perspective in the long term but also in that given time it gave us a very healthy profit margin.

Nick Khachatryan:
Develop the habit of thinking from other people’s perspective and for their benefit rather than trying to focus on your own personal link.

Tyrone Shum:
This is Property Investory where we talk to successful property investors, find out more about their stories, mindset and strategy.

I’m Tyrone Shum and in this episode we’re continuing the conversation with Nick Khachatryan, investment professional who currently works for Real Estate Exclusive. Continue listening to hear his thought process behind securing the best deals for his clients.

In a previous episode we had the chance to hear about the journey behind Khachatryan’s lightbulb idea to instigate his own group investment project. He will now share the key factors that enabled him to convince others to get on board!

Nick Khachatryan:
The people you are talking to – Number one they have to trust you. The second you have to give them something, some sort of proposal that makes absolute sense. You have to be almost bulletproof for them to look at it and say well what is the worst thing that can happen if I was to do this?

Tyrone Shum:
On top of developing a trusting relationship with your partner, Khachatryan highlights the importance of doing research before presenting the potential group investment property.

Nick Khachatryan:
You really have to have your numbers and your asset protection strategy, your personal protection strategies in place. What’s your long term strategy? What’s the short term? How are you actually going to do this thing? Once you’re able to carefully plan, because don’t forget your money is tied up in theirs and so is their money. So whatever experience they go through, there it’s a lot more intensified for them because they potentially might be putting in a lot more money than you will. So their interests need to be put forward first. In this case I’ll give an example when I proposed the idea in a group ownership format. I had to make sure that obviously finances did make sense. The ownership did make sense, how the costs are going to be shared, how are the profits going to be shared after taxes and things like that obviously. And then if there were any problems that could arise in the journey that we were going to embark on, how we would deal with those problems and also had there been a situation where one of the parties was to become deceased.

How would the other parties do to deal with that situation or would it go to family or how would it happen what sort of protection do they get in in that regard. So really once you have your strategies in place you then propose the idea to the group of people or the investors that you’re talking to and it obviously makes sense and they’re willing to commit then you just simply embark on that journey. It sounds quite simple but there’s obviously hours and hours of research on the area. You do have to have your numbers and figures from the bank. Your figures as far as what can be claimed as far as your interests on taxation and how are you going to protect the property itself. What is it going to cost you know in how many years what’s the rental income going to be who is going to be managing it how much is the management going to cost and all these little things that need to be looked at. So there’s no unexpected surprise. And that’s essentially what I had to go to propose the idea to a group of friends i.e. investors and move forward with that.

Tyrone Shum:
Khachatryan shares with us his mentors were not the usual people you seek out to gain guidance from.

Nick Khachatryan:
The mentors that I had were my own customers, the people that I had dealt with because the feedback they would give me is as real as it gets because it comes from their own personal experience, their journey that they’re going through or the things that they’re trying to achieve.

And then you face the reality of those things and you say well okay I’m planning to do this how would it affect these people how would I look at them in the face and say a year time and would I turn away or run away or would they be happy to see me? I think specifically mentors is just the people that I work with and the challenges that threw my direction because not everything that I have said and done was perfect. There were flaws there were things that I hadn’t thought about or considered. So having these people in my life where they would question me, they would challenge me, they would push me back and they will say well that’s wrong. that’s not correct. How would you deal with this then and all those sort of things shaped the way that I think today. And I think those are the people that are my mentors. But there was no specific person that I had in my life that could guide me through that process.

Tyrone Shum:
Along the way, Khachatryan also discovered some key learnings about advice he would share with others.

Nick Khachatryan:
Best advice was don’t do it. It’s risky. You may lose money. That was the best advice that I received from people and the reason why is the best advice is because it made me not take things lightly. It made me become a lot more a lot more careful and study my information. Dig deeper. And that’s where I’ve developed the habit of listening to as many sources as possible before being able to make decisions. I think that’s one thing that definitely stood out for me is that there’s always going to be that one that will say don’t do it and that’s don’t forget it.

Don’t take that in a wrong way that’s an opinion of another person that you you’re listening into now listen to someone who has actually done it. But the best advice would be is when someone tells you not to do it and the question is why not because others have done it and they have succeeded. Why are you telling me that I should not be doing it?

Tyrone Shum:
Reflecting on the success of his property portfolio, Khachatryan reveals his detective like ability to suss out a potential investment opportunity.

Nick Khachatryan:
If an opportunity comes that I come across or is given to me I would analyse it and find if there’s any true benefit in spending any more time or investing into it and so on. The second thing is the investors might come back and say look you know we’re looking at doing this. What should we do? Should we do this and so on?

Once that initial start has been established someone initiated it as some sort of investment opportunity then we would do a ridiculous amount of research surrounding that particular opportunity regardless of being a renovation, regardless of being at this stage or a distressed property whatever it is we obviously start with a lot of research on the area on the property. We took up all of the information related to that property. Why is it going for sale for example and if we’re looking at this how many other people were looking at this opportunity because surely we’re not really the only people that have the opportunity was presented to or available to. And why is it that all that was on the market for such a long period of time. How many agencies has it exchanged hands with and then obviously looking at the financial figures on how do we benefit from investing in this property. What are the timeframes that are associated. What things can go wrong or has already gone wrong in the past. It could be the council did not give permit on a particular type of construction or redevelopment project or the council is building something down the road that is going to be 10 times better and the current owners are looking at selling out because they know that they will be losing money.

Tyrone Shum:
Before getting involved in an investment property, Khachatryan ensures to fully understand what he is getting into.

Nick Khachatryan:
Essentially all these things need to be scoped out and not just on the scope should not be kept on the project itself but rather the surrounding elements must be considered as well both physical as well as the physical location and the financial figures the history the past that it has gone to and we look at these things. It can take several weeks until we find the answers for all of these questions then we look at our time frame. What are the terms that are proposed to us? Are they negotiable? Are we going to profit from this opportunity? Should we keep it should we sell.? What is the sell out terms? How much is going to cost us to actually close and walk away? What are the things that again can go wrong at a sellout stage? Essentially those are the things that we really look at as far as your specific nuts and bolts how we come to the decision of investing into something. We do a lot of research and a lot of research. With zero emotion involved because a friend said that or someone passed it on to us or someone said something bad about that.

Tyrone Shum:
Coming up after the break we will delve into his strategy when it comes to his own clients…

Nick Khachatryan:
The people you are talking to – Number one they have to trust you. The second you have to give them something, some sort of proposal that makes absolute sense.

Tyrone Shum:
Details on his property investment habits…

Nick Khachatryan:
I look at it from their perspective rather than my own perspective.

Tyrone Shum:
Where he sources his tips and tricks from…

Nick Khachatryan:
When I do research when it comes to the property, the market. I go into a lot of the statistical information that I can find or websites or Australian economists that have done studies.

Tyrone Shum:
And that’s next. I’m Tyrone Shum and you’re listening to Property Investory.

Khachatryan recounts the success of a recent business opportunity, all of which can be accredited to his investigative abilities.

Nick Khachatryan:
About a year ago I noticed that a commercial building that’s only three levels being in front of a residential Penthouse building which is about six stories tall essentially those penthouses the top three levels are overlooking the Melbourne City. An extraordinary view especially New Years Eve when the fireworks go off.

When I realized the office had closed down I knew there had to be some sort of a reason because the entire office cannot close down because in several floors, you don’t close an entire commercial building unless there is something major going on like a sale, a redevelopment opportunity or something else growing up the local council. I pretended to be a local resident who is concerned that a potential of development opportunity may be coming up directly in front of my apartment and it may decrease the value of my property. The council then revealed to me at the time verbally that there is a potential outlook by a very very large development company who is it is an investment group for a developer who recently purchased a property for a 2.5 million dollars at the time and straight away I knew that there is going to be development. That’s great but how did that benefit us then.

We looked at obviously being in the real estate we can sell properties as well. We don’t just look at investment opportunities we can actually sell and rent out properties. So I wrote a personal letter to the residents specifically on that side of the building that were going to be affected by the development proposal and walked into the building and dropped it specifically in those mailboxes saying that Dear resident, this is who we are this is who I am. It has come to our attention that the building in front of me and I’ve stayed at the address may be undergoing future development, development changes and it will be converted from a commercial to real estate building. Real estate meaning a residential building and then there is an outlook that will increase the actual height of the building and what this means that your views to the city will be blocked off the construction process itself is going to be quite lengthy and it will cause not just the dust but the noise disruption the air conditioning unit up the top will affect the property on the very high levels. If you’re looking to rent out your property you ought to sell please contact us.

Tyrone Shum:
By taking this initiative, he not only showed his trustworthiness towards potential property investors, but also opened up a communication line between himself and residents.

Nick Khachatryan:
Out of the 15 letters that we sent out only one resident responded to us. He actually walked into our office demanding to see myself which was great. He was an elderly gentleman from a building in the street. So he was quite knowledgeable. So he questioned on the facts obviously that we stated which was great because we had done our own work and we knew what we were obviously saying and were not misleading this this group of people and you know he said that I had spoken to the council and the council said that then maybe how did you get information. Where did you get your facts from? And we simply just laid out the paperwork and we showed and what we received and what we spoke about. And funny enough in the last three months that same very same building is undergoing major partial demolition process and the building it will be increased in height and that will ultimately block off the views on the penthouses up the top. So look it’s all about you know being able to see into the future and anticipate things that may happen. Also question and remember going back I said that I don’t listen to one person. I also listen to various sources always question the facts and try to find the common pattern and then ultimately they’ll give you the truth which was why the building closed down.

What is the reason? and then that led to this set of events that you know now we look at any and think that it was a investigative decision that led to us making these people aware of what’s coming their way.

Tyrone Shum:
Khachatryan ensures that all business decisions made in regard to his client’s investment properties, have the sole purpose of maximizing their financial outcome.

Nick Khachatryan:
I think what I found over time is often when I’m making decisions on behalf of other people I’ll give you an example: when we were engaged in a renovation project on a property there’s a pool of money that’s available to me in I suppose employing that money and in carrying the work through it. And even when there is 20 dollars that we’ll be spending at a local Bunnings Warehouse on a particular fitting or fixture. I always ask myself the question do we need this is this a necessity or is it something that I believe it’s a luxury, if it’s a luxury that’s great but does that add value to our common goal here. Because you know my thought is that no individuals ability to look at things is not more important than the goal. So the goal of a single person is not necessarily good for the goal of the group of people. I hope that that sort of makes sense. I look at it from their perspective rather than my own perspective.

Tyrone Shum:
Khachatryan’s mindset towards helping his clients is to have full transparency with the financial side of things.

Nick Khachatryan:
If I’m going to be spending other people’s money in on a property which is justifiable but is it really justifiable am I spending for the right purpose for the right cause is it going to benefit us all or is it just for me to look at and say well that looks really nice. That additional feature looks really nice but if it’s not going to add value to the property then we really don’t need it so don’t spend that 25 dollars. And that’s something that I don’t have to go and justify to the investors. I don’t have to show that 25 dollars that has been spent but ultimately it’s on your conscience as a as a person making decision on their behalf. Is it the right decision that you’re making? Doesn’t matter if it’s the right amount or it’s not necessarily to do with financial figures it’s just overall making decisions.

When it comes to you know the property. Develop the habit of thinking is this the right decision making for your own personal interest or a group of interests because essentially you know you’d find that the common interest the perspective of many people tend to in most cases tend to be the right one and sometimes if you were blinded by your own emotional drive and you making decisions based on those and that element then you sort of going towards that crush point and these people will pull you back but before you get to that point you’ve got to do them mentality because that mentality is what will be exhibited to potential investors who then would trust in you because they can see that you will not be burning their money or throwing down the drain because you feel like it or you thought that it was the case. But it was obviously unjustifiable. So develop the habit of thinking from other people’s perspective and for their benefit rather than trying to focus on your own personal link.

Tyrone Shum:
In terms of books, Khachatryan has not had one stand-out piece of literature that has shaped his property investment journey. Instead, he prefers to hear from a variety of sources so that he can pull out the common elements from each story that has seen the most success in his eyes.

Nick Khachatryan:
My research is all obviously when I do research when it comes to the property, the market. I go into a lot of the statistical information that I can find or websites or Australian economists that have done studies and you can purchase some of their work. Some of them you’ll be able to find online and I did essentially go through those things when I was looking at Australian property markets, the land value over the last hundred years and how it evolved, the property prices and what essentially affects them over a period of time then the books the actual books that are read are all to do with Warren Buffett and his investment strategies because I find that the mentality behind his investment strategy is very much applicable to most other investment platforms whether it is in stock market or property. He has what’s called the engagement rules or engagement terms where he has a standard that will not break for anyone and it could be a safety area. He would not gamble on things he would look at opportunities he would value something fairly and then he would stand firmly on that price and he would not move. Books that I read as far as far as specific books are Warren Buffett related books and anything that’s specific to the industry I tend to believe, I’m a little bit of a journalist. I don’t like to take opinion of one person I may respect them a lot I might like them a lot but it’s just an opinion off another man or woman. I like to get an opinion from different people different perspective because the experience is something that you can not really express in the format of a book.

I’m willing to listen to what many people economists, the investors you know even real estate agents have to say and then find the link, if there’s a common link between the things that they’re saying. Because when you do find the common link you tend to find the truth in something that you’re looking for and essentially that’s what I do. That’s how I research my information when it comes to investment or finding a particular type of property.

Tyrone Shum:
If you wish to connect with Nick Khachatryan and find out more about his successful property investment journey, you can reach out to him through his business.

Nick Khachatryan:
Look what I have in my email would be the ideal way to get in touch with me which is n i c double k at real estate exclusive dot com dot au.

Tyrone Shum:
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